When I saw this I literally slammed my hands on my bed and screamed "WHAT????" out of excitement!!! I l o v e d playing The Rose of Segunda and this is such an amazing surprise to find! I can't wait to play!
The Rose of Segunda was an absolute treasure - the writing, the characters, the plot - and is a game I love beyond words. This sequel is already on my must-have-list!
As for thoughts:
* I am so thankful and appreciative that you let us input our thoughts about children. So so many visual novels make the assumption that the mc has and/or wants kids at the end and that can be a little disheartening. The fact that you're actually allowing player input on that topic is <3
*Again, the writing for this is absolutely fantastic. The art style is very cute so I wasn't expecting the sophisticated political intrigue of a game that was the first, though I was very pleasantly surprised and immediately invested.
*I can't wait to see how Frederique's route plays out. Admittedly it was my favorite route (angst is always a source of investment, I must say) and watching how it unfolds in the midst of already otherwise unrelated turmoil and then familial turmoil - unless it's kept a secret in which case even more delectable angst - will be amazing.
Thank you so much for all the hard work put into such an ambitious and fantastic game! I really can't wait for it to come out. (But do not feel rushed or pressure, it is understood that quality takes time and you have other projects that require attention as well)
Thank you for the positive feedback on both 'Rose' and 'Thorns', I'm glad you enjoyed the first game and have found enough in the demo to get excited for the sequel.
Yes, it always surprises me a little when such a big decision as having children is decided for the player. I suppose it makes sense in games where it is already established your character wants them or they are needed for the plot, but otherwise I would probably avoid bringing it up or let players decide what they believe their character would want.
Aha, so many people seem to be looking forward to Fred's route - the pressure's on and I must admit I'm getting a little nervous.
Well, thank you for playing and your kind encouragement - I am already aware that the 200,000 approximated word count is likely a huge underestimate, so I don't think rushing it will be an option. ^_^
The demo served as a good transition from the prequel ‘Rose of Segunda’ and managed to build my interest. There are still good balances of humour, serious tone and romance (since they are married after all ;D). Oh I missed the playful MC, and of course the trickster, troublemaker duo (MC and Frederique).
Things which kept my curiosity and build up my anticipation:
1. How MC and love interest(s) (particularly MC X Leopold) will interact with Prince and Francesca. I am also quite interested if the Prince will ever come to truly love Francesca (those who played the prequel knew the Prince has some unresolved issues where his moral values come into conflict with his position and responsibility).
2. I also wonder if Francesca, who has been raised as a winner will ever have a change of heart during the course of the story and learn some valuable lessons or she will just stay a bitter cucumber. I missed her banters with MC and the girls.
3. Frederique’s route (One of my favourites along with Leopold’s, ahem)! Everything about Frederique’s route is a mystery and I keep wondering how the family will react to this news, or will they be able to hide their marriage / romance from Mother’s watchful eyes? I actually really like MC’s Mother (based on exposure from RoS and the demo in ToW). She is a good mixture of Mother who does *seemed* to love her children but also torn between her ‘responsibility’, as she put it. Or will the sequel revealed her children really are just ‘pawns’ to her? It sort of gives the melancholic feeling of Victorian era where mother’s love is complicated thing, but isn’t it always? xD
4. Does ‘who the King wants you to marry at the end of prequel?’ gives any sort of impact in later story? I played both ‘Francesca’ and ‘Me’ and didn’t notice any dialogue changes though it is probably just me since after all, we still haven’t had any direct encounter with the King yet in the demo.
5. Sofia’s route. Because we know that Frederique also love the MC so I wonder if there will be any drama involving these 3 pretties, or if Frederique will come to love Sofia or if he will find someone else to love? Or… IDK HAHA too many possibilities!!
6. Outcome of the war, obviously! Particularly the main players such as Prince and Leo. This war will surely have a huge impact on them both.
7. Married with children endings, since you brought it up in the demo xD
8. New characters and secret character! So there are 3, right?
Thank you for your feedback - it's always interesting to see what people are anticipating.
Most of these points are things that will definitely be covered by the full game, so at least your curiosity will be sated eventually.
Though for number 4, I can confirm that every route so far as had one or two lines reflecting who the King chose to marry Guillaume at the end of 'Rose'.
They are usually from or with regards to your mother and how angry she was at the time. Of course, you're right in thinking that you will see more comments further into the game, especially when you meet the King.
And as for point 8, yes, there are three new romance options. Vesela, one of the high-ranking Alvardian diplomats, Mathys, a former knight, and the secret romance (who I think is pretty obvious, because it's not like there are many eligible sprites left at this point ^_^)
I had no idea there was a sequel underway for The Rose of Segunda and just stumbled upon it here and I can't be more hyped since I wanted a sequel as soon as I finished the game! I loved the first game and still replay it every now and again, it is not famous enough in my opinion. The MC is as amazing as ever, the humour in the first game was one thing I loved the most, it made me go through all the routes and all the choices just to see it all:)
This demo is just as good so far, I liked all the characters we saw and their growth and hints to their lives these past two years, although Leo will forever be number one. It's also nice that the game still has its humour and wit despite the darker tone and I can't wait to see how it all unfolds. I'm also very curious about the new romance options for the loveless route.
I'm eagerly awaiting this game and the next piece of the demo, and if the rest of the game is like the demo then it will be amazing!
Thank you for your kind comments - it's nice to hear you enjoyed the first game and like where the sequel has headed so far.
Yes, part of me wanted to make the single route long enough to enable players to meet the two new characters, but that would have made it about three times as long as the other demo routes. Perhaps when the game is nearer completion, I'll release an extended demo. ^_^
Oh wow I remember when the first time I saw The Rose of Segunda and really loved the art style and paths all the different routes went. To think randomly browsing itch.io would have me see a sequel :3 I'm excited for this and the demo has me anticipating what's more to come :D
Just finished the demo, I also like the more serious tone and I can't wait to see how Frederique's route will fit into all of this! also the loveless marriage route was fun to read as well and the comment about his rooms being too far and that sounding just perfect to Lolanthe really cracked me up haha.
I am! I can't wait until all routes are in. I actually played through every single one and really enjoyed them so I'm excited to see how they all are in the sequel.
Do you perhaps have a discord, where people could theorize or ask you questions about the story/game? I'd love to use it, I want to make all the fanfic already, I'm in love with this series, and I know a couple others who feel the same way. :)
To be honest, I only really use discord to talk to one of my proofreaders at the moment, and I'm not sure I have the time currently to moderate/run a server, as well as write the games I have in production.
That said, if you and the people interested wanted to create a space of your own, I could certainly join and answer questions/chat when I'm free. ^_^
I really love the demo and can't wait for it to be finished, even seeing how your choices play out, like if they give you a good ending or a bad ending, i still can't wait to see Frederique route and also Bastien route, i do love all the other characters to even having a choice to have no one so can find someone else. this game is amazing already
Ah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm downloading the demo now, I am SO excited! I can't play until tomorrow but I'll come back to gush when I do. Thank you so much for your hard work!
I LOVE it. I like the more serious tone as opposed to the first game, though I'm pleased it still has a lot of the originals charming playfulness still. I'm so excited to see how the characters have grown over the past few years. I like being able to select the original traits up front as well as the route as I had a little bit of trouble guessing when the first game first came out and it took me a bit to figure out what option equaled what trait (except the super obvious ones).
So far Sophia is my fave for this game, though I loved the interactions between MC and everyone. Leo and her were really cute together, and I love the dynamic with her brother. I also really like the loveless marriage option, I'm a sucker for angst. It was great hearing our mom's reaction to our choices (she got so angry with all of mine haha) and meeting her in person, I can tell she's going to be a great (and fearsome!) character.
Looking forward to the rest of the routes, especially my fave of the first game, Bastien, I'm sure that choice will go over well with mom :P
Anyway, good luck and thank you for all of your hard work, I shall be stalking this game relentlessly!
Thank you for such positive feedback. I'm glad you enjoyed the demo so far, and that despite the more serious setting, the characters lighthearted moments still come across (I worry that some people might be disappointed it is not as jovial as the first game).
Well, I am hoping Bastien and the other routes will be finished soon, so please let me know what you think once you've played his one, since he's your favourite. ^_^
I'm sure the release date will be here before we know it though. I know, for me at least, time seems to go dizzyingly fast when I've got a deadline looming.
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When I saw this I literally slammed my hands on my bed and screamed "WHAT????" out of excitement!!! I l o v e d playing The Rose of Segunda and this is such an amazing surprise to find! I can't wait to play!
I'm happy to hear you're excited for the sequel - I hope you enjoy it as much as the first game. ^_^
Be still my heart!
The Rose of Segunda was an absolute treasure - the writing, the characters, the plot - and is a game I love beyond words. This sequel is already on my must-have-list!
As for thoughts:
* I am so thankful and appreciative that you let us input our thoughts about children. So so many visual novels make the assumption that the mc has and/or wants kids at the end and that can be a little disheartening. The fact that you're actually allowing player input on that topic is <3
*Again, the writing for this is absolutely fantastic. The art style is very cute so I wasn't expecting the sophisticated political intrigue of a game that was the first, though I was very pleasantly surprised and immediately invested.
*I can't wait to see how Frederique's route plays out. Admittedly it was my favorite route (angst is always a source of investment, I must say) and watching how it unfolds in the midst of already otherwise unrelated turmoil and then familial turmoil - unless it's kept a secret in which case even more delectable angst - will be amazing.
Thank you so much for all the hard work put into such an ambitious and fantastic game! I really can't wait for it to come out. (But do not feel rushed or pressure, it is understood that quality takes time and you have other projects that require attention as well)
Thank you for the positive feedback on both 'Rose' and 'Thorns', I'm glad you enjoyed the first game and have found enough in the demo to get excited for the sequel.
Yes, it always surprises me a little when such a big decision as having children is decided for the player. I suppose it makes sense in games where it is already established your character wants them or they are needed for the plot, but otherwise I would probably avoid bringing it up or let players decide what they believe their character would want.
Aha, so many people seem to be looking forward to Fred's route - the pressure's on and I must admit I'm getting a little nervous.
Well, thank you for playing and your kind encouragement - I am already aware that the 200,000 approximated word count is likely a huge underestimate, so I don't think rushing it will be an option. ^_^
Hi!
The demo served as a good transition from the prequel ‘Rose of Segunda’ and managed to build my interest. There are still good balances of humour, serious tone and romance (since they are married after all ;D). Oh I missed the playful MC, and of course the trickster, troublemaker duo (MC and Frederique).
Things which kept my curiosity and build up my anticipation:
1. How MC and love interest(s) (particularly MC X Leopold) will interact with Prince and Francesca. I am also quite interested if the Prince will ever come to truly love Francesca (those who played the prequel knew the Prince has some unresolved issues where his moral values come into conflict with his position and responsibility).
2. I also wonder if Francesca, who has been raised as a winner will ever have a change of heart during the course of the story and learn some valuable lessons or she will just stay a bitter cucumber. I missed her banters with MC and the girls.
3. Frederique’s route (One of my favourites along with Leopold’s, ahem)! Everything about Frederique’s route is a mystery and I keep wondering how the family will react to this news, or will they be able to hide their marriage / romance from Mother’s watchful eyes? I actually really like MC’s Mother (based on exposure from RoS and the demo in ToW). She is a good mixture of Mother who does *seemed* to love her children but also torn between her ‘responsibility’, as she put it. Or will the sequel revealed her children really are just ‘pawns’ to her? It sort of gives the melancholic feeling of Victorian era where mother’s love is complicated thing, but isn’t it always? xD
4. Does ‘who the King wants you to marry at the end of prequel?’ gives any sort of impact in later story? I played both ‘Francesca’ and ‘Me’ and didn’t notice any dialogue changes though it is probably just me since after all, we still haven’t had any direct encounter with the King yet in the demo.
5. Sofia’s route. Because we know that Frederique also love the MC so I wonder if there will be any drama involving these 3 pretties, or if Frederique will come to love Sofia or if he will find someone else to love? Or… IDK HAHA too many possibilities!!
6. Outcome of the war, obviously! Particularly the main players such as Prince and Leo. This war will surely have a huge impact on them both.
7. Married with children endings, since you brought it up in the demo xD
8. New characters and secret character! So there are 3, right?
Hello RPGHero
Thank you for your feedback - it's always interesting to see what people are anticipating.
Most of these points are things that will definitely be covered by the full game, so at least your curiosity will be sated eventually.
Though for number 4, I can confirm that every route so far as had one or two lines reflecting who the King chose to marry Guillaume at the end of 'Rose'.
They are usually from or with regards to your mother and how angry she was at the time. Of course, you're right in thinking that you will see more comments further into the game, especially when you meet the King.
And as for point 8, yes, there are three new romance options. Vesela, one of the high-ranking Alvardian diplomats, Mathys, a former knight, and the secret romance (who I think is pretty obvious, because it's not like there are many eligible sprites left at this point ^_^)
Thanks for playing
I had no idea there was a sequel underway for The Rose of Segunda and just stumbled upon it here and I can't be more hyped since I wanted a sequel as soon as I finished the game! I loved the first game and still replay it every now and again, it is not famous enough in my opinion. The MC is as amazing as ever, the humour in the first game was one thing I loved the most, it made me go through all the routes and all the choices just to see it all:)
This demo is just as good so far, I liked all the characters we saw and their growth and hints to their lives these past two years, although Leo will forever be number one. It's also nice that the game still has its humour and wit despite the darker tone and I can't wait to see how it all unfolds. I'm also very curious about the new romance options for the loveless route.
I'm eagerly awaiting this game and the next piece of the demo, and if the rest of the game is like the demo then it will be amazing!
Thank you for your kind comments - it's nice to hear you enjoyed the first game and like where the sequel has headed so far.
Yes, part of me wanted to make the single route long enough to enable players to meet the two new characters, but that would have made it about three times as long as the other demo routes. Perhaps when the game is nearer completion, I'll release an extended demo. ^_^
Thanks for playing
Oh wow I remember when the first time I saw The Rose of Segunda and really loved the art style and paths all the different routes went. To think randomly browsing itch.io would have me see a sequel :3 I'm excited for this and the demo has me anticipating what's more to come :D
Ah, I'm happy you've managed to find us again and I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the demo so far.
Thanks for playing
Just finished the demo, I also like the more serious tone and I can't wait to see how Frederique's route will fit into all of this! also the loveless marriage route was fun to read as well and the comment about his rooms being too far and that sounding just perfect to Lolanthe really cracked me up haha.
Yes, 'pretending Iolanthe' is a hoot - I'm sure she's going to be lots of fun to write. ^_^
Glad you enjoyed the demo, so far - it won't be long now until Frederique and the others' routes are finished.
Thanks for playing
Will the game get a steam release when it's finished? :) I really loved the first game so I'm excited to play the demo!
Yes, I'll mostly likely put it on Steam since the first game is on there.
I hope you enjoy the demo. ^_^
Yay! :D Great ^-^
I am! I can't wait until all routes are in. I actually played through every single one and really enjoyed them so I'm excited to see how they all are in the sequel.
Do you perhaps have a discord, where people could theorize or ask you questions about the story/game? I'd love to use it, I want to make all the fanfic already, I'm in love with this series, and I know a couple others who feel the same way. :)
To be honest, I only really use discord to talk to one of my proofreaders at the moment, and I'm not sure I have the time currently to moderate/run a server, as well as write the games I have in production.
That said, if you and the people interested wanted to create a space of your own, I could certainly join and answer questions/chat when I'm free. ^_^
I really love the demo and can't wait for it to be finished, even seeing how your choices play out, like if they give you a good ending or a bad ending, i still can't wait to see Frederique route and also Bastien route, i do love all the other characters to even having a choice to have no one so can find someone else. this game is amazing already
Ah, thank you for the feedback - I'm glad you're you're enjoying the demo so far.
Frederique and Bastien's routes will be along very soon (I am hoping to finished Frederique's today, in fact, and get it sent to out for proofing).
Ah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm downloading the demo now, I am SO excited! I can't play until tomorrow but I'll come back to gush when I do.
Thank you so much for your hard work!
Ah, I'm glad to hear you're looking forward to playing it and please do let me know what you think. ^_^
I LOVE it. I like the more serious tone as opposed to the first game, though I'm pleased it still has a lot of the originals charming playfulness still. I'm so excited to see how the characters have grown over the past few years. I like being able to select the original traits up front as well as the route as I had a little bit of trouble guessing when the first game first came out and it took me a bit to figure out what option equaled what trait (except the super obvious ones).
So far Sophia is my fave for this game, though I loved the interactions between MC and everyone. Leo and her were really cute together, and I love the dynamic with her brother. I also really like the loveless marriage option, I'm a sucker for angst. It was great hearing our mom's reaction to our choices (she got so angry with all of mine haha) and meeting her in person, I can tell she's going to be a great (and fearsome!) character.
Looking forward to the rest of the routes, especially my fave of the first game, Bastien, I'm sure that choice will go over well with mom :P
Anyway, good luck and thank you for all of your hard work, I shall be stalking this game relentlessly!
Thank you for such positive feedback. I'm glad you enjoyed the demo so far, and that despite the more serious setting, the characters lighthearted moments still come across (I worry that some people might be disappointed it is not as jovial as the first game).
Well, I am hoping Bastien and the other routes will be finished soon, so please let me know what you think once you've played his one, since he's your favourite. ^_^
Thanks for playing and for your continued support
Whohooo, im so happy about this sequel :D
But i want it finished ... NOW O_O
Ha! You and me both! ^_^
I'm sure the release date will be here before we know it though. I know, for me at least, time seems to go dizzyingly fast when I've got a deadline looming.